Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice Wave 2? POSSIBLE SPOILERS

[kiptrip]

I'd like a dead zod and doomsday to go with Zod. Would love to display all three of them together.

[xmaldigolax]

I'd like a dead zod.

How goth

that does sound like a cool pack though. for a display going from alive, to dead, to doomsday, like an evolution.

[pophunter_spain]

i'd like:

-Clarck Kent
-Bruce Wayne
-6 inch Doomsday
-Alfred
-Batllte damage armored Batman

[shatpank81]

coming from the UK i would just like an Armored Batman

but like others have said, Battle damaged Armored Batman preferably with Kryptonite Spear
considering Aquaman got 2 pops, id like a flash one
Alfred
Diana Prince - in that dress
Clark Kent
Bruce Wayne
doomsday which is huge - similar in size to the Baymax Pop

[Indy Viper]

I think it's a bad idea for Funko to continue to support this movie by making more Pops.

As a life-long DC fan, I'm reminded of the Joel Schumacher era of Batman movies and all the awful tie-in merchandise they produced. The public can start to feel like advertising and merch is unwantedly being shoved down our throats and it seems pretty clear from the 2nd week drop in box office numbers that this movie doesn't have "legs", as they say.

The majority of customers who might buy Pops are going to see a Wave 2 and ask themselves, "Why?", not buy them. Funko should be focusing their DC releases on the fan-loved DC TV shows and more comic waves like the generally universally-anticipated next wave with Supergirl, Cyborg, and Firestorm.

[haastyle]

I personally can't wait for wave 2, Funko has a chance to get creative with Doomsday, Superman, Batman Variants.
There are a ton of haters, the movie wasn't true enough to the "comic" book series, well it has already grossed over 700 million worldwide and climbing.
These are "Superheroes" afterall so expecting a logical movie with lifelike scenarios is not to be expected.

This line has been a huge hit for Funko, why not keep it going? The first wave of merchandise wasn't awful by any means.

I think it's a bad idea for Funko to continue to support this movie by making more Pops.

As a life-long DC fan, I'm reminded of the Joel Schumacher era of Batman movies and all the awful tie-in merchandise they produced. The public can start to feel like advertising and merch is unwantedly being shoved down our throats and it seems pretty clear from the 2nd week drop in box office numbers that this movie doesn't have "legs", as they say.

The majority of customers who might buy Pops are going to see a Wave 2 and ask themselves, "Why?", not buy them. Funko should be focusing their DC releases on the fan-loved DC TV shows and more comic waves like the generally universally-anticipated next wave with Supergirl, Cyborg, and Firestorm.

[Indy Viper]

These are "Superheroes" afterall so expecting a logical movie with lifelike scenarios is not to be expected.

That's the exact kind of wrong-headed thinking that has led to so many comic to film adaptations to be abysmally awful. By your reasoning Batman Forever was a perfectly acceptable superhero movie. I think most people would agree its far from that.

OF COURSE a superhero movie has to be logical!! The only way you make a truly good, believable superhero film is by making it as life-like and logical as possible. The first Avengers movie is a perfect example. You have all the larger-than-life fantastical comic elements, but it's all done in a way that's so logical and grounded in reality, that it makes all the fantasy elements that much more believable.

If Funko wants to make fans happy while also doing good business, they'd be better served by focusing on releases that promote quality titles that will stand the test of time.

[shogunjlips]

Batman Forever > BvS

[Indy Viper]

Batman Forever > BvS

Lol


I don't disagree, actually, but my point still stands.

[shogunjlips]

brother, I'm all about your point!

[tinkerbell055]

I'd like a Batmobile Pop Ride, unmasked Batman and/or Bruce Wayne (I'll be honest, I'd buy both), and Lois. *Maybe* Clark, Diana, and Alfred.

[pop_jumper]

After completing the set of mystery Minis, I'd say "civilian" versions of the hero's could translate pretty well, considering their looks are pretty iconic. I'd buy a Clark, Bruce, Alfred, and Less without missing a beat. Maybe a Diana Prince if they got her look right.

[0ShadowStories]

It would make sense if the new ones were Lex, 6" Doomsday, Clark, Bruce, Diana, Alfred and Flash.

[Marvel486]

After all is Funko working on a second series for this? I really want a Doomsday and alfred pops!

[SandSnake5]

Would still like a series 2 of this movie, it's looking more unlikely with the next DC movies rolling out soon.

The plan might be 1 set of POPs per movie.

[0ShadowStories]

Would still like a series 2 of this movie, it's looking more unlikely with the next DC movies rolling out soon.

The plan might be 1 set of POPs per movie.

Funko said they were making more pops for BVS though

[CampBhoy67]

There'll be more pops for Civil War - Spider Man etc. So we expect more from BvS. I need an unmasked Batman

[Childishtycoon]

Unmasked Batman would be cool, Green Batman Dorbz or The Bat Creature from the cemetery.

[Marvel486]

Unmasked Batman would be cool, Green Batman Dorbz or The Bat Creature from the cemetery.

I would like an unmasked Batman too. But also a Flash pop, we get an aquaman pop with a small cameo in the film, it would be cool see him too.

[Rex Mason]

I personally can't wait for wave 2, Funko has a chance to get creative with Doomsday, Superman, Batman Variants.
There are a ton of haters, the movie wasn't true enough to the "comic" book series, well it has already grossed over 700 million worldwide and climbing.
These are "Superheroes" afterall so expecting a logical movie with lifelike scenarios is not to be expected.

This line has been a huge hit for Funko, why not keep it going? The first wave of merchandise wasn't awful by any means.

The movie cost over 800 million to make/promote. As of now, it has made a profit for the studio, but a small one considering the investment. This is not what movie studios consider a hit, especially considering the poor critical reception and how that will affect future releases in the series not starring as big of a name character as Batman or Superman.

Staying true to the comic book series isn't the issue (not sure why comic is in quotes in your post...). If that were the case, the general non-comic book reading public wouldn't be complaining about the movie just as much as the comic fans. The major issue is an illogical script. The motivation for the World's Greatest Detective to want to go against his character and murder Superman was so incredibly slim, it barely made sense. And that wasn't even the only issue with the story. Luthor's motivation and means went unexplained to any reasonable level (as did his bizarre characterization), and Batman's decision to lead Doomsday through a busy area made about as much sense as why the name Martha completely alters his outlook on life (or why Superman calls his own mom Martha, for that matter.)

No matter how fantastical the world in any movie, it has to establish rules and follow them. Otherwise the viewers leave with an unsatisfying experience. This movie had a bad script and a director who doesn't understand his title characters.

I love Batman Pops! more than most, but I'd rather Funko mine other bat-properties than linger any longer on this one. (I'm very happy to be getting more '66 Pops! and some Batman: The Animated Series figures, for example.)

[CampBhoy67]

Luthor wanted to show Superman as a fraud, because he wasn't there to save him from his fathers abuse as a child. The Doomsday area was uninhabited. 'Martha' took Bruce back to the moment when his mother was taken from him by a thug, and now he is about to take a son from his mother, he had come full circle. Before this, Batman only saw Superman as an alien, not someone who had loved ones. It may not have been a perfect execution, but it worked for me at least. And Snyder said that the budget for this was actually smaller than Man of Steel, which was still profitable. They made a lot of money back from the deals with Dr Pepper etc. If the studio wasn't happy, Justice League wouldn't be shooting right now. Although I agree that I need the animated series Pops pronto

[T-Diamond Stylus]

The movie cost over 800 million to make/promote.

The movie didn't cost $800 million dollars to make. The budget was $250 million before tax cuts for filming in Michigan. So it was less than the original budget than they spent about $150 million on marketing, to make it a total of $400 million investment. The movie has tie ins for with major corporations and several huge merchandise campaigns with toys, clothes, comics etc. It's not a box office bomb. WB never said anywhere they wanted to make a billion dollars on the movie. The movie made it's money back one way or another.

[haastyle]

I personally can't wait for wave 2, Funko has a chance to get creative with Doomsday, Superman, Batman Variants.
There are a ton of haters, the movie wasn't true enough to the "comic" book series, well it has already grossed over 700 million worldwide and climbing.
These are "Superheroes" afterall so expecting a logical movie with lifelike scenarios is not to be expected.

This line has been a huge hit for Funko, why not keep it going? The first wave of merchandise wasn't awful by any means.

The movie cost over 800 million to make/promote. As of now, it has made a profit for the studio, but a small one considering the investment. This is not what movie studios consider a hit, especially considering the poor critical reception and how that will affect future releases in the series not starring as big of a name character as Batman or Superman.

Staying true to the comic book series isn't the issue (not sure why comic is in quotes in your post...). If that were the case, the general non-comic book reading public wouldn't be complaining about the movie just as much as the comic fans. The major issue is an illogical script. The motivation for the World's Greatest Detective to want to go against his character and murder Superman was so incredibly slim, it barely made sense. And that wasn't even the only issue with the story. Luthor's motivation and means went unexplained to any reasonable level (as did his bizarre characterization), and Batman's decision to lead Doomsday through a busy area made about as much sense as why the name Martha completely alters his outlook on life (or why Superman calls his own mom Martha, for that matter.)

No matter how fantastical the world in any movie, it has to establish rules and follow them. Otherwise the viewers leave with an unsatisfying experience. This movie had a bad script and a director who doesn't understand his title characters.

I love Batman Pops! more than most, but I'd rather Funko mine other bat-properties than linger any longer on this one. (I'm very happy to be getting more '66 Pops! and some Batman: The Animated Series figures, for example.)

Back at it again after a month later, damn daniel! I simply made a post stating I wanted another wave of Funko merch, sorry for offending those that hated this movie & feel the need to keep bashing it.

[Rex Mason]

Luthor wanted to show Superman as a fraud, because he wasn't there to save him from his fathers abuse as a child. The Doomsday area was uninhabited. 'Martha' took Bruce back to the moment when his mother was taken from him by a thug, and now he is about to take a son from his mother, he had come full circle. Before this, Batman only saw Superman as an alien, not someone who had loved ones. It may not have been a perfect execution, but it worked for me at least. And Snyder said that the budget for this was actually smaller than Man of Steel, which was still profitable. They made a lot of money back from the deals with Dr Pepper etc. If the studio wasn't happy, Justice League wouldn't be shooting right now. Although I agree that I need the animated series Pops pronto

That Luthor motivation still makes no sense. That's just poor writing. Their rivalry has been done countless times in other media, and is nearly always grounded in a jealously that the rich Luthor feels towards a Man of Steel who seemingly didn't earn his place as the most famous man in Metropolis. Making Luthor insane (even if it's later explained in Justice League), actually hurts the character in this particular case. It would make much more sense that a scheming, genius Luthor would figure out how to combine Zod and his own blood to make Doomsday. Luthor's knowledge of that process went mostly unexplained.

Instead of simply getting the spear and coming back, Batman made Doomsday follow him. It was a poor decision for one of the smartest men on the planet to make. (And why can you see the Bat-Signal in Gotham City from Metropolis, by the way?)

I understood the attempt at finding common ground between Superman and Batman, but again it was extremely thin in this movie. Batman is highly intelligent. Martha as a safe word isn't the kind of character defining moment that would alter his mindset. If they wanted to paint him as someone going too far who realized his mistake, then they should have pushed that direction and not tried to have their cake and eat it too. Batman can't be a hero and a villain in the plot without committing to either, and the "misunderstanding" was poorly thought out and executed. Again, Superman calls his own mother "Martha." That's the event that alters Batman's way of thinking. That's the best they could come up with, a comic book coincidence from 75 years ago.

The Latino-Review calculated Batman v Superman's budget at 410 million before promotion. Forbes estimated it at 415 million. Projected box office receipts internationally were around 895 million, of which Warner Brothers will gain 52% domestic, 25% from China, and around 42% from other foreign countries. It's not like that 800 or 900 million is what the studio receives. It's less than half of that amount. (Sorry my earlier budget figure wasn't accurate. I didn't recall the exact figures from memory, just the fact that there was little room for profit.)

Overall, Batman v. Superman was not very profitable for the company. Justice League - Part 1 was already scheduled to film, but according to reports, WB is now having plenty of conflicts with Snyder regarding his direction for the tone of the upcoming film. WB isn't exactly happy with the movie's performance.

As to how that pertains to Pops!, I can see WB wanting to release more and make as much from this license as possible to help make the movie more profitable. But in my opinion, I'd rather that didn't happen and Funko concentrate on some of the many, many other great Batman and Superman properties. That's just my preference, of course. But there is so much good stuff out there...

[CampBhoy67]

That Luthor motivation still makes no sense. That's just poor writing. Their rivalry has been done countless times in other media, and is nearly always grounded in a jealously that the rich Luthor feels towards a Man of Steel who seemingly didn't earn his place as the most famous man in Metropolis. Making Luthor insane (even if it's later explained in Justice League), actually hurts the character in this particular case. It would make much more sense that a scheming, genius Luthor would figure out how to combine Zod and his own blood to make Doomsday. Luthor's knowledge of that process went mostly unexplained.

Instead of simply getting the spear and coming back, Batman made Doomsday follow him. It was a poor decision for one of the smartest men on the planet to make. (And why can you see the Bat-Signal in Gotham City from Metropolis, by the way?)

I understood the attempt at finding common ground between Superman and Batman, but again it was extremely thin in this movie. Batman is highly intelligent. Martha as a safe word isn't the kind of character defining moment that would alter his mindset. If they wanted to paint him as someone going too far who realized his mistake, then they should have pushed that direction and not tried to have their cake and eat it too. Batman can't be a hero and a villain in the plot without committing to either, and the "misunderstanding" was poorly thought out and executed. Again, Superman calls his own mother "Martha." That's the event that alters Batman's way of thinking. That's the best they could come up with, a comic book coincidence from 75 years ago.

The Latino-Review calculated Batman v Superman's budget at 410 million before promotion. Forbes estimated it at 415 million. Projected box office receipts internationally were around 895 million, of which Warner Brothers will gain 52% domestic, 25% from China, and around 42% from other foreign countries. It's not like that 800 or 900 million is what the studio receives. It's less than half of that amount. (Sorry my earlier budget figure wasn't accurate. I didn't recall the exact figures from memory, just the fact that there was little room for profit.)

Overall, Batman v. Superman was not very profitable for the company. Justice League - Part 1 was already scheduled to film, but according to reports, WB is now having plenty of conflicts with Snyder regarding his direction for the tone of the upcoming film. WB isn't exactly happy with the movie's performance.

As to how that pertains to Pops!, I can see WB wanting to release more and make as much from this license as possible to help make the movie more profitable. But in my opinion, I'd rather that didn't happen and Funko concentrate on some of the many, many other great Batman and Superman properties. That's just my preference, of course. But there is so much good stuff out there...

The best Luthor interpretation was in Smallville, they done it correct imo. Although I do like Eisenberg's version. There's a theory he wanted to create Doomsday, bring together the League and defeat him to become as 'popular' as Superman. Even before it was released, Snyder said that JL will be lighter in tone, comparing the darkness of BvS to Empire Strikes Back (might have been Chris Terrio who said that). Metropolis and Gotham are across the bay from each other in this universe, I think it was compared to San Francisco and Oakland. A lot of reports are false - I mean James Wan was supposedly leaving Aquaman but that was debunked within a day. I think I've seen more box office write ups about BvS than any other movie ever. No articles are written about how much Civil War or any other movies need to make to break even, or how Guardians of the Galaxy apparently went way over budget. It just fans the flame wars between fanboys. At the end of the day - as long as each movie makes enough for the studios to continue making them I don't care how well they do.
Don't get me wrong, I just want as many DC pops as I can get. Animated series, Smallville and more Blackest Night etc. A second wave for BvS would mean we actually could get characters which deserve to get made - Lois Lane, Alfred, Luthor and so on.

[Rex Mason]

My favorite Luthor is the animated series version who then played a huge role in Justice League. Loved the episode where he switched bodies with Flash (voiced by Luthor from Smallville). A great story that wasn't afraid of <gasp> humor.

Wish Batman v. Superman embraced some of the lighter aspects of the DCU. Batman is a dark character, but Superman is not. It's a great contrast that really could have made the movie stand out as something truly unique and interesting. The Steve Rude World's Finest mini series was a great example of playing that that dynamic, as was the animated crossover episodes of the same name.

Don't get me wrong, I really tried to like the movie. Saw it twice in the theater, in fact, trying to see what others enjoyed about it. But the plot was just riddled with holes and/or character bits I didn't agree with, and I walked away both times feeling empty and unaffected. That's not a reaction this Batman fanatic has ever had with a Batman movie in the past.

[CampBhoy67]

My favorite Luthor is the animated series version who then played a huge role in Justice League. Loved the episode where he switched bodies with Flash (voiced by Luthor from Smallville). A great story that wasn't afraid of <gasp> humor.

Wish Batman v. Superman embraced some of the lighter aspects of the DCU. Batman is a dark character, but Superman is not. It's a great contrast that really could have made the movie stand out as something truly unique and interesting. The Steve Rude World's Finest mini series was a great example of playing that that dynamic, as was the animated crossover episodes of the same name.

Don't get me wrong, I really tried to like the movie. Saw it twice in the theater, in fact, trying to see what others enjoyed about it. But the plot was just riddled with holes and/or character bits I didn't agree with, and I walked away both times feeling empty and unaffected. That's not a reaction this Batman fanatic has ever had with a Batman movie in the past.

At least you gave it a fair chance. A lot of people see the reviews and don't give it a shot. Maybe Superman will be lighter when he comes back? I'm sure the Flash and Cyborg will bring levity to JL. And maybe Green Lantern if and when he makes his appearance. Suicide Squad, The Flash, GL Corps and Shazam will be fairly humorous movies I think, plus Green Arrow if that ever gets made.

[Rex Mason]

I'm extremely excited about Suicide Squad. I like the director, and can't wait to see the first big screen interpretations of Katana and Killer Croc. My hope in the DC movie universe rests with it and the future solo Batman movie, as I think Affleck is a great director and fills the roll of Batman nicely.

[CampBhoy67]

I'm extremely excited about Suicide Squad. I like the director, and can't wait to see the first big screen interpretations of Katana and Killer Croc. My hope in the DC movie universe rests with it and the future solo Batman movie, as I think Affleck is a great director and fills the roll of Batman nicely.

Yeah, I loved Fury and I heard End of Watch is good. I want Ben to play Batman for as long as possible, the history his Batman has is unexplored so I'm looking forward to his solo movie. Hopefully it ends up being a trilogy

[Rex Mason]

I wish they started with a solo Batman movie. Establishing how Batman acts in this universe would have really helped paint him as extreme in Batman v. Superman. That would make his life changing moment more powerful and necessary. As it is, we've never seen this Batman before. We don't know if branding criminals is far out of his character or not.

But yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing where his solo movie goes. Interesting that Affleck opted to direct this, when he originally turned down the opportunity to direct Justice League. It shows he really believes in his character, and hopefully the script, too.

[Nooklin]

I would be ok with them releasing a second wave if it includes some of the fewer/never made pops or versions from upcoming films (like Aquaman (who really wasn't in this one)).
Parademon
Darsied
Cyborg
Flash
any other Justice League preview pops that would make us thirsty for more or to see the next movie.
Regardless of how much money it made, or what the critics thought of it, the film confused and/or disappointed comic fans and non-comic fans alike. Without getting into a full movie review (since I'm sure there is another section for that), I am looking forward to seeing what comes next, beyond Suicide Squad. There is an entire DC universe out there; tease us with something awesome.

Looking forward to some Shazam and Black Adam Pops though.

[AngryGroot]

Looking forward to some Shazam and Black Adam Pops though.

YES!!! Cannot wait to finally get a Black Adam pop!

[CL_YO]

I would love to see movie versions of Flash and Cyborg. More flashes the better in my opinion.



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I am looking forward to seeing what comes next, beyond Suicide Squad. There is an entire DC universe out there; tease us with something awesome.

This. I can't wait until after suicide squad comes out. What will the next LoC be? What other comics/tv shoes will they pull from?

[HeroPopCollector]

Battle damaged Armored Batman with Kryptonight spear.
Batman in/with the Batwing (Ridez)
Superman red glowing eyes (with GITD variant)
Diana world war variants I agree with.
Wonder woman with glowing shield (red from blast) and glowing lasso
Unmasked batman would be very cool.
Doomsday 6"
Doomsday 6" red eyes or glowing red (evolving)

Oh one can only hope!

[HeroPopCollector]

I would be ok with them releasing a second wave if it includes some of the fewer/never made pops or versions from upcoming films (like Aquaman (who really wasn't in this one)).
Parademon
Darsied
Cyborg
Flash
any other Justice League preview pops that would make us thirsty for more or to see the next movie.
Regardless of how much money it made, or what the critics thought of it, the film confused and/or disappointed comic fans and non-comic fans alike. Without getting into a full movie review (since I'm sure there is another section for that), I am looking forward to seeing what comes next, beyond Suicide Squad. There is an entire DC universe out there; tease us with something awesome.

Looking forward to some Shazam and Black Adam Pops though.

I literally had the same thoughts on Shazam and Black Adam, i mean they are making a new movie!! Hopefully closer to that time and when they release trailers for it, funko could decide to do them. I think with The Flash, Cyborg, Darksied, they will get made when we actually get to see their suits and all that.

[SandSnake5]

Is Series 2 still happening ???

[0ShadowStories]

Is Series 2 still happening ???

They said no just some exclusives

[Sn0wKing1]

Is Series 2 still happening ???

They said no just some exclusives

I was so disappointed when I heard this. Personally I loved the movie and was pumped for a second wave, so hearing it's just going to be a couple exclusives and then it'll be done is pretty sad.

[thejosh2010]

At least a Doomsday is coming to SDCC...although I'm surprised, I'm relieved as well there isn't a bunch more of variants just for the sake of having more.

[Rex Mason]

Happy to get a Batman from Suicide Squad. (Just hope I can find him.) Would it have killed them to remove the Batarang, though? Ha!