treswright wrote:FredKruger wrote:Sigh, ignorance is bliss. High resale drives demand,which in turn drives sales.
Oh wait, you mean you really ARE serious? I thought you were kidding! I'm still not sure you're notWell let me just say I've been collecting toys for almost 30 years and I have seen MANY vintage toys re-released from Revell models to Mattel Hot Wheels to Tomy Zoids to Hasbro action figures and you might be astonished to hear that all of those companies are alive and doing quite well
FredKruger wrote:Rereleasing collectibles will always drive away collectors.
Typically when vintage toys are rereleased they do the exact opposite of what you claim, they create new demand for those toys. All of the above manufacturers have seen a resurgence of interest in the vintage stuff when they rereleased it. If you have examples where rereleasing older product has "sunk" a company, then please share them with us, I for one would be very interested in hearing this as in my many years of collecting I have never heard of this.FredKruger wrote:To exaggerate a bit all protos are rereleased at Walmart as commons for $9.95. All the people who paid $1000's for theirs can just buy more for cheap! Think that will.make everyone happy? I know i'd like some prototypes for cost..
A "prototype" is a limited run of product that precedes the production pieces. It is used for design review and approval before production starts. As such there are very few of them, and because of the low numbers and the nature of them they have more value than the production pieces. Thus your example makes no sense, because if they were to produce large numbers of "prototypes" then they are no longer "prototypes", they are production pieces.FredKruger wrote:Love funko but they need to keep the pops in the vault, or don't vault them at all. Unvaulting pops gives a few sales but drives demand down and supply up.
No it doesn't. You can go back to all of the examples I gave above from vintage Revell models to Hot Wheels to Tomy Zoids and find that the original releases did not lose value when the newer versions were rereleased. These companies are careful to change the packaging, so for hardcore collectors there's still value in the original. To newer collectors, they're happy to add the rerelease to their collection without spending a fortune for it. And the newer stuff is more money in the company's pockets whereas high resale values on eBay only helps flippers. Rereleasing older items is win-win.FredKruger wrote:Funko isn't growing because of hardcore collectors, they are growing due to appeal to the masses. If you take away the value, you lose the masses
You think people buy Pops and Dorbz because of future resale value? There may be a small number of people that do, but by and large people buy them because they like them and they think they are AFFORDABLE! The vast majority of Funko's customers aren't buying their products as a retirement plan and don't look at eBay prices to help them make a buying decision. They see it in the store, they think it's cool, it's cheap, they buy it. THAT is how Funko's bread-and-butter consumerism is working. Then a lot of those people get hooked and end up hereFredKruger wrote:Not gonna argue with you Tres was stating an opinion, which is what the board is for.
I always find it amusing when someone argues about something and then says "I'm not going to argue"
Disagree with your entire post. These aren't toy cars or baseball cards, the proto bit was an exaggeration, and you informed that value DOES matter for protos proving my point. We all are entitled to our opinions whether others agree or not. This is a toy board and not going to continue the banter. What I meant by not going to argue is, my post and that's it.
So back to topic, anymore news on these toy tokyo cereal dorbz on sale? Must have that 3 pack and ride. I'm guessing they will put them up over night, hoping they have a lot cause demand is thru the roof.
