Never Produced/Mega Ultra Rare Wacky Wobblers
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I know a thread like this has been started before, but does anyone know any ultra rare (less than or about 24 pieces) or never released to the public wobblers? I am trying to find out about hard to find wobblers that you may not find on the pop price guide or Funko app. I am excluding prototypes as there is a prototype for just about every wobbler. Here are the ones I am aware of based of other peoples posts and notifications (note: I don't have complete data on every wobbler so forgive me if there are slight flaws in these statements):
Metallic Cthulhu- limited to 12 pieces, they are hand signed (with each respective number) on the bottom of the box by Brian Mariotti
Clockwork Orange Alex Delarge- Was a planned release until a licensing dispute came about. There is a normal and gitd version.
Captain Chuck Gold- There were two Chuck's Comics wacky wobblers that are more known than this one. The normal one of Captain Chuck (1000 pieces) and a GITD version (96) pieces. I spoke with someone on the phone from Chuck's Comics (don't remember if it was the manager, owner, or an employee) and he said there was a 1 of 1 gold Captain Chuck Wobbler that was given away at an event. I have yet to see an image of a wobbler.
Jack Scarrow- A fusion between the Captain Chuck's head and another wobbler, these figurines have three different versions.
Red glow Iron Man- An idea pitched to Brian, this Iron Man did not end up releasing because of its faulty glow. There were 12 made.
Cartman Tux and Officer- The tux version was limited to 4 pieces while the officer Cartman had more in number.
COF Freddy- Made exclusively for Mike Becker, was a spin on the older Freddy holding another Freddy SDCC exclusive wobbler. It is, as mentioned earlier, a one of one.
Orange Suit Bone Daddy- Only 2 pieces exist
Valentine's Day Betty Boop- Only 2 pieces exist
GITD Pink El Diablo- A 20 inch wobbler limited to 6 pieces
Pez Wobblers- including characters like Jason Voorhees or Green Lantern, these pez dispenser wacky wobblers may be limited to 6 or less pieces.
Chrome based SDCC Wobblers- Some SDCC/Fundays wobblers had a chrome chase variant of the already existing figurine, most of which were limited to 12 pieces; there were a few that were even more limited in number.
If there are anymore wobblers, a backstory behind the aforementioned wobblers, any information that I may have incomplete or incorrect on the wobblers, or images of the wobblers, feel free to let me know. Also, stay safe in these rough times!
Metallic Cthulhu- limited to 12 pieces, they are hand signed (with each respective number) on the bottom of the box by Brian Mariotti
Clockwork Orange Alex Delarge- Was a planned release until a licensing dispute came about. There is a normal and gitd version.
Captain Chuck Gold- There were two Chuck's Comics wacky wobblers that are more known than this one. The normal one of Captain Chuck (1000 pieces) and a GITD version (96) pieces. I spoke with someone on the phone from Chuck's Comics (don't remember if it was the manager, owner, or an employee) and he said there was a 1 of 1 gold Captain Chuck Wobbler that was given away at an event. I have yet to see an image of a wobbler.
Jack Scarrow- A fusion between the Captain Chuck's head and another wobbler, these figurines have three different versions.
Red glow Iron Man- An idea pitched to Brian, this Iron Man did not end up releasing because of its faulty glow. There were 12 made.
Cartman Tux and Officer- The tux version was limited to 4 pieces while the officer Cartman had more in number.
COF Freddy- Made exclusively for Mike Becker, was a spin on the older Freddy holding another Freddy SDCC exclusive wobbler. It is, as mentioned earlier, a one of one.
Orange Suit Bone Daddy- Only 2 pieces exist
Valentine's Day Betty Boop- Only 2 pieces exist
GITD Pink El Diablo- A 20 inch wobbler limited to 6 pieces
Pez Wobblers- including characters like Jason Voorhees or Green Lantern, these pez dispenser wacky wobblers may be limited to 6 or less pieces.
Chrome based SDCC Wobblers- Some SDCC/Fundays wobblers had a chrome chase variant of the already existing figurine, most of which were limited to 12 pieces; there were a few that were even more limited in number.
If there are anymore wobblers, a backstory behind the aforementioned wobblers, any information that I may have incomplete or incorrect on the wobblers, or images of the wobblers, feel free to let me know. Also, stay safe in these rough times!
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Alex, I am with PPG and would love for you to help us adding these. Just send me a message here or there.
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Hey Alex, fun list! The Officer Cartman you mentioned is LE 8.
A couple that come to mind for me that aren't on your list are the Green Metallic/Blue Jacket Johnny Fang (LE 8) and the Red Metallic Gold Jacket Johnny Fang (LE 12).
A couple that come to mind for me that aren't on your list are the Green Metallic/Blue Jacket Johnny Fang (LE 8) and the Red Metallic Gold Jacket Johnny Fang (LE 12).
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Fun list. Thanks for making it.
Fun list. Thanks for making it.
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Great thread right here. It's like walking down thru Funko History. Learned something new today.
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Great idea. 1 of 2 Orange suit is 20 inch. Also have a 1 of 3 mini orange suit LTJ version. Both I want to someday have in my Bone Daddy collection.
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TJLAUTERBACH wrote:Great idea. 1 of 2 Orange suit is 20 inch. Also have a 1 of 3 mini orange suit LTJ version. Both I want to someday have in my Bone Daddy collection.
isn't the gold Bone daddy a 1/6?
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Here's another one:
Angelina Jolie from Maleficent movie wacky wobbler was never produced - rumor was because she didn't approve it. I have one in my collection (won from a Funko sponsored contest on here).
Angelina Jolie from Maleficent movie wacky wobbler was never produced - rumor was because she didn't approve it. I have one in my collection (won from a Funko sponsored contest on here).
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vegasbaby98 wrote:Here's another one:
Angelina Jolie from Maleficent movie wacky wobbler was never produced - rumor was because she didn't approve it. I have one in my collection (won from a Funko sponsored contest on here).
Oh wow that's really cool! I love hearing those stories of actors/ actresses who dont approve their likeness. I remember that The Mummy POP was another that was never made for the same reason
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willy wonka wrote:TJLAUTERBACH wrote:Great idea. 1 of 2 Orange suit is 20 inch. Also have a 1 of 3 mini orange suit LTJ version. Both I want to someday have in my Bone Daddy collection.
isn't the gold Bone daddy a 1/6?
Correct. I am talking about the mini orange suit LTJ version. Looks just like the Halloween mini orange except says Less than Jake. I believe Reverend, Carol and Josh have them. I could be wrong. As far as the gold mini I have one, Reverend, Josh, Carol and not sure on others.
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AleX-Men wrote:I know a thread like this has been started before, but does anyone know any ultra rare (less than or about 24 pieces) or never released to the public wobblers? I am trying to find out about hard to find wobblers that you may not find on the pop price guide or Funko app. I am excluding prototypes as there is a prototype for just about every wobbler. Here are the ones I am aware of based of other peoples posts and notifications (note: I don't have complete data on every wobbler so forgive me if there are slight flaws in these statements):
Metallic Cthulhu- limited to 12 pieces, they are hand signed (with each respective number) on the bottom of the box by Brian Mariotti
Clockwork Orange Alex Delarge- Was a planned release until a licensing dispute came about. There is a normal and gitd version.
Captain Chuck Gold- There were two Chuck's Comics wacky wobblers that are more known than this one. The normal one of Captain Chuck (1000 pieces) and a GITD version (96) pieces. I spoke with someone on the phone from Chuck's Comics (don't remember if it was the manager, owner, or an employee) and he said there was a 1 of 1 gold Captain Chuck Wobbler that was given away at an event. I have yet to see an image of a wobbler.
Jack Scarrow- A fusion between the Captain Chuck's head and another wobbler, these figurines have three different versions.
Red glow Iron Man- An idea pitched to Brian, this Iron Man did not end up releasing because of its faulty glow. There were 12 made.
Cartman Tux and Officer- The tux version was limited to 4 pieces while the officer Cartman had more in number.
COF Freddy- Made exclusively for Mike Becker, was a spin on the older Freddy holding another Freddy SDCC exclusive wobbler. It is, as mentioned earlier, a one of one.
Orange Suit Bone Daddy- Only 2 pieces exist
Valentine's Day Betty Boop- Only 2 pieces exist
GITD Pink El Diablo- A 20 inch wobbler limited to 6 pieces
Pez Wobblers- including characters like Jason Voorhees or Green Lantern, these pez dispenser wacky wobblers may be limited to 6 or less pieces.
Chrome based SDCC Wobblers- Some SDCC/Fundays wobblers had a chrome chase variant of the already existing figurine, most of which were limited to 12 pieces; there were a few that were even more limited in number.
If there are anymore wobblers, a backstory behind the aforementioned wobblers, any information that I may have incomplete or incorrect on the wobblers, or images of the wobblers, feel free to let me know. Also, stay safe in these rough times!
I would add the unreleased fosters home for imaginary friends wobblers to this list, some say less then 24 of each character were produced excluding gitd bloo.
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Yeah I’ve heard. Do you own some?
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AleX-Men wrote:Yeah I’ve heard. Do you own some?
I do actually, picture coming shortly!
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willy wonka wrote:Freddy Clone Trooper 1/4 regular base and 1/3 chrome base.
Fun list. Thanks for making it.
Always willing to find something rare
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Joschik wrote:Alex, I am with PPG and would love for you to help us adding these. Just send me a message here or there.
Sure yeah, but I’m not a hundred percent sure on each rarity. I’ll help whichever way I can.
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MasterSplyntr wrote:Hey Alex, fun list! The Officer Cartman you mentioned is LE 8.
A couple that come to mind for me that aren't on your list are the Green Metallic/Blue Jacket Johnny Fang (LE 8) and the Red Metallic Gold Jacket Johnny Fang (LE 12).
Thanks for letting me know!
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MasterSplyntr wrote:Hey Alex, fun list! The Officer Cartman you mentioned is LE 8.
A couple that come to mind for me that aren't on your list are the Green Metallic/Blue Jacket Johnny Fang (LE 8) and the Red Metallic Gold Jacket Johnny Fang (LE 12).
Thanks for mentioning, amazing how rare some wobblers are!
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FireEmblemZack wrote:vegasbaby98 wrote:Here's another one:
Angelina Jolie from Maleficent movie wacky wobbler was never produced - rumor was because she didn't approve it. I have one in my collection (won from a Funko sponsored contest on here).
Oh wow that's really cool! I love hearing those stories of actors/ actresses who dont approve their likeness. I remember that The Mummy POP was another that was never made for the same reason[/quote
How man are in existence?
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FireEmblemZack wrote:vegasbaby98 wrote:Here's another one:
Angelina Jolie from Maleficent movie wacky wobbler was never produced - rumor was because she didn't approve it. I have one in my collection (won from a Funko sponsored contest on here).
Oh wow that's really cool! I love hearing those stories of actors/ actresses who dont approve their likeness. I remember that The Mummy POP was another that was never made for the same reason
Sweet, do you have an image?
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FireEmblemZack wrote:vegasbaby98 wrote:Here's another one:
Angelina Jolie from Maleficent movie wacky wobbler was never produced - rumor was because she didn't approve it. I have one in my collection (won from a Funko sponsored contest on here).
Oh wow that's really cool! I love hearing those stories of actors/ actresses who dont approve their likeness. I remember that The Mummy POP was another that was never made for the same reason
Sweet! Do u have an image of it!
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Joschik wrote:Alex, I am with PPG and would love for you to help us adding these. Just send me a message here or there.
Sure, I would be glad to help. However, there are people on the board with more experience who could offer more help than me. Still glad to give any info you need though!
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AleX-Men wrote:FireEmblemZack wrote:Oh wow that's really cool! I love hearing those stories of actors/ actresses who dont approve their likeness. I remember that The Mummy POP was another that was never made for the same reason
Sweet! Do u have an image of it!
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FireEmblemZack wrote:AleX-Men wrote:FireEmblemZack wrote:Oh wow that's really cool! I love hearing those stories of actors/ actresses who dont approve their likeness. I remember that The Mummy POP was another that was never made for the same reason
Sweet! Do u have an image of it!
Must be a collector’s item
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vegasbaby98 wrote:Here's another one:
Angelina Jolie from Maleficent movie wacky wobbler was never produced - rumor was because she didn't approve it. I have one in my collection (won from a Funko sponsored contest on here).
Do you have a photo of it?
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AleX-Men wrote:vegasbaby98 wrote:Here's another one:
Angelina Jolie from Maleficent movie wacky wobbler was never produced - rumor was because she didn't approve it. I have one in my collection (won from a Funko sponsored contest on here).
Do you have a photo of it?
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Alleycat wrote:AleX-Men wrote:vegasbaby98 wrote:Here's another one:
Angelina Jolie from Maleficent movie wacky wobbler was never produced - rumor was because she didn't approve it. I have one in my collection (won from a Funko sponsored contest on here).
Do you have a photo of it?
In box, out of box (is that a hand painted proto?), and all white proto. You are legend. Also, I see so many rare wobblers in box with no protector on the forum. Why does that happen?
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The one on the left I got from eBay from a seller in China or Hong Hong. A scrapper, I suppose.
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off the top of my head
2 versions of glow grateful dead bears - 3 of each
12 gold mini ltj bone daddies (6 were given away in an ltj contest and funko kept 6)
12 gold tommy lipuma however only 1 has been verified real.
20 inch gold freaky tiki - 6 made
20 inch big boy - japan only 10? made
lots of pez (some had 2 versions - chrome=6 made and regular=12 made
beavis and butthead with golf clubs - achilles heel or something - not sure how many
scottie dogs - several versions - limited to 3?
2 versions of glow grateful dead bears - 3 of each
12 gold mini ltj bone daddies (6 were given away in an ltj contest and funko kept 6)
12 gold tommy lipuma however only 1 has been verified real.
20 inch gold freaky tiki - 6 made
20 inch big boy - japan only 10? made
lots of pez (some had 2 versions - chrome=6 made and regular=12 made
beavis and butthead with golf clubs - achilles heel or something - not sure how many
scottie dogs - several versions - limited to 3?
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mateo wrote:off the top of my head
2 versions of glow grateful dead bears - 3 of each
12 gold mini ltj bone daddies (6 were given away in an ltj contest and funko kept 6)
12 gold tommy lipuma however only 1 has been verified real.
20 inch gold freaky tiki - 6 made
20 inch big boy - japan only 10? made
lots of pez (some had 2 versions - chrome=6 made and regular=12 made
beavis and butthead with golf clubs - achilles heel or something - not sure how many
scottie dogs - several versions - limited to 3?
There were only 10 of 20 inch big boy.
The Achilles Cup Beavis and Butthead and Darth Vader and Stormtrooper were le 16 each. If I can figure out how to upload pics I can get the beavis/butthead uploaded.
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I didn't realize till recently how rare the 20 inch Big Boy is hope to track that one down someday to add to the collection! I never knew about the COF Freddy that is so awesome!!
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"Naked" Smart Alex - 12 unpainted with springs. look just like prototypes
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willy wonka wrote:Freddy Clone Trooper 1/4 regular base and 1/3 chrome base.
Fun list. Thanks for making it.
I think you have those backwards. But I'm not 100%.
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HobieWanKenobi wrote:willy wonka wrote:Freddy Clone Trooper 1/4 regular base and 1/3 chrome base.
Fun list. Thanks for making it.
I think you have those backwards. But I'm not 100%.
Your Right. TheJosh2010 pointed that out to me.
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Re: Never Produced/Mega Ultra Rare Wacky Wobblers
willy wonka wrote:HobieWanKenobi wrote:willy wonka wrote:Freddy Clone Trooper 1/4 regular base and 1/3 chrome base.
Fun list. Thanks for making it.
I think you have those backwards. But I'm not 100%.
Your Right. TheJosh2010 pointed that out to me.
You're all talking about the color Freddy Clone Trooper, right? Not these guys
The white one was LE144 for regular base and LE12 for the chrome base (Fundays 8 - 2010)
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Re: Never Produced/Mega Ultra Rare Wacky Wobblers
Yes Scotty, they are talking about the Freddy Clone Troopers that are owned by Jacob. I believe that they are posted in the Freddy Funko thread in the List area.
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Re: Never Produced/Mega Ultra Rare Wacky Wobblers
You can see a lot of the rarities mentioned here in my collection shown at viewtopic.php?f=118&t=39116. Other items of interest include Gold Lipuma, Star Wars Green Siege Trooper (1 of 4), numerous PEZ (1 of 3s, 1 of 4s, etc), Meal Magic Kid crystal (13 made), and more. Also check ShoMeNodder's collection for rare pieces.
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Re: Never Produced/Mega Ultra Rare Wacky Wobblers
I would recommend to try to start off with a list below LE12, there is a ton of LE12 pieces. That was what the LE to rare Freddy pieces use to be before Funko blew up and went to a LE24. But cool idea to have them in one place not to mention there is stuff that the Funko app(PPG) doesn't have listed or they got it wrong. If I remember any I will try to post and I think the 20" pink El Diablo is LE8 not 6, there is come rare Johnny Fangs too the gold (LE8?) and metallic blue (LE12) plus some 1 of 1 color rejects. My opinion 1 of 1 don't count but that is just me and I own s few myself.
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