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Funko statement/position regarding paint defects?

Postby blur_r » Sun May 15, 2016 7:20 pm

Good evening!

Is anyone aware of any statement/position that Funko has made regarding paint defects concerning their POP! products?

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Re: Funky statement/position regarding paint defects?

Postby slim1977 » Sun May 15, 2016 7:22 pm

Most likely the statement would be, they are 9 dollar toys. Paint defects happen......
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Re: Funky statement/position regarding paint defects?

Postby blur_r » Sun May 15, 2016 7:54 pm

slim1977 wrote:Most likely the statement would be, they are 9 dollar toys. Paint defects happen......


Understood, but was curious if something more official had been made.

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Re: Funky statement/position regarding paint defects?

Postby emcee » Sun May 15, 2016 8:11 pm

What kind of "official" statment are you looking for? Give some examples of what you think they would or could have said.
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Re: Funky statement/position regarding paint defects?

Postby blur_r » Sun May 15, 2016 8:41 pm

emcee wrote:What kind of "official" statment are you looking for? Give some examples of what you think they would or could have said.


What I am referencing is statements like Paint quality, etc... Will have flaws according to Funko and its normal., ...we actually believe quality is improving..we monitor closely. People compare us often with MUCH more expensive items which is unfair. But we keep trying! brian mariotti, and Bryan told us that if we wanted better products the prices for said products would raise substantially.

What sources are people getting these assertions? It has to be from somewhere, correct?

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Postby buf12sbr » Sun May 15, 2016 8:44 pm

They get them from interviews and just asking Brain at Fundays/Toy Fair and other events
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Re: Funko statement/position regarding paint defects?

Postby emcee » Sun May 15, 2016 9:25 pm

Those are all pretty minor imperfections.

Funko doesn't really have to say anything, it's all common sense. Perfection is quite a high expectation.
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Re: Funko statement/position regarding paint defects?

Postby poppetmaster » Sun May 15, 2016 9:36 pm

LOL @ this thread. I'm pretty sure you are going to find paint defects in even the $200+ Hot Toys, just as you would these $10 POPs. Just be glad that these new POPs coming out are SUBSTANTIALLY better than paint jobs in 2010/2011. If you want to complain, OG DC had some of the crappiest paint jobs I have seen, especially the metallic paints.

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Re: Funko statement/position regarding paint defects?

Postby TheLastDude » Sun May 15, 2016 9:46 pm

These paint jobs are on figures marketed TO collectors and cost $20 and up (depending on location obviously)

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Re: Funko statement/position regarding paint defects?

Postby Strending625 » Sun May 15, 2016 10:33 pm

Some pops will have paint issues because they are mass produced but I still have yet to see an original Spider-man pop with paint flaws. Those paint jobs are completely perfect every time :roflmao:
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Re: Funko statement/position regarding paint defects?

Postby poppetmaster » Sun May 15, 2016 10:57 pm

TheLastDude wrote:These paint jobs are on figures marketed TO collectors and cost $20 and up (depending on location obviously)

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Paint issues and QC woes are part of the process when you're talking about something that is mass produced.


Pretty disappointed...after seeing gigantic boobies the first 3 times, I was expecting it the 4th as well. What a let down [-(

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Re: Funko statement/position regarding paint defects?

Postby Poncho Pete » Sun May 15, 2016 11:12 pm

Funko has shown a natural evolution as a whole of improved quality. Would expect this to continue. It bothers some people more than others and I think plan their buying accordingly (online vs instore ) accordingly.
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Re: Funko statement/position regarding paint defects?

Postby emk194 » Sun May 15, 2016 11:37 pm

You're buying a product for $9.99USD and you're asking about paint quality? What kind of statement do you think they should they give? You pay for what you get. A $10 item will NOT have the same standards as a $100 item, for example. I lost count how many of my pieces have paint issues. These goods are made in China, and retail for $10USD. I don't think there should really be an expectation re: quality. It does not and should not impact the prices for these goods.
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Re: Funko statement/position regarding paint defects?

Postby Strending625 » Mon May 16, 2016 12:22 am

poppetmaster wrote:
TheLastDude wrote:These paint jobs are on figures marketed TO collectors and cost $20 and up (depending on location obviously)

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Paint issues and QC woes are part of the process when you're talking about something that is mass produced.


Pretty disappointed...after seeing gigantic boobies the first 3 times, I was expecting it the 4th as well. What a let down [-(


Wait we were supposed to see paint flaws in the first 3 pictures? I got distracted...at least the 4th pic was a nice pair of legs lol
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Re: Funko statement/position regarding paint defects?

Postby TheLastDude » Mon May 16, 2016 12:37 am

poppetmaster wrote:
TheLastDude wrote:These paint jobs are on figures marketed TO collectors and cost $20 and up (depending on location obviously)

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Paint issues and QC woes are part of the process when you're talking about something that is mass produced.


Pretty disappointed...after seeing gigantic boobies the first 3 times, I was expecting it the 4th as well. What a let down [-(


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Re: Funko statement/position regarding paint defects?

Postby RoboFist » Mon May 16, 2016 12:51 am

The thing is that, in my experience anyway, poor paint jobs haven't been terribly common anymore. Yes, there's always a gamble when you order online (I just bought an Oswald the Rabbit Pop that looks like it was painted by a five year old, for example), but even in those cases, I'm always more surprised when I have a Pop with a noticeably bad paint job. Like the Iron Man we just got in the MCC box? All of the intricate lines and panels in his complicated armor? 100% spotless.

So, yeah, you get what you pay for, but considering these are $10 toys, I'd say that the quality paint jobs drastically outweight the bad ones.
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Re: Funko statement/position regarding paint defects?

Postby naisatoh » Mon May 16, 2016 12:54 am

This discussion always comes up - yet I'm over here feeling impressed at how much the paint quality has improved over the past couple years.
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Re: Funko statement/position regarding paint defects?

Postby TheLastDude » Mon May 16, 2016 12:55 am

RoboFist wrote:The thing is that, in my experience anyway, poor paint jobs haven't been terribly common anymore. Yes, there's always a gamble when you order online (I just bought an Oswald the Rabbit Pop that looks like it was painted by a five year old, for example), but even in those cases, I'm always more surprised when I have a Pop with a noticeably bad paint job. Like the Iron Man we just got in the MCC box? All of the intricate lines and panels in his complicated armor? 100% spotless.

So, yeah, you get what you pay for, but considering these are $10 toys, I'd say that the quality paint jobs drastically outweight the bad ones.


Agreed 100%.

Sure, there are some where the paint isn't completely spot on...but how many Pops can you honestly say are absolutely atrocious? I'm talking not in a nit-picking way either...
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Re: Funko statement/position regarding paint defects?

Postby poppetmaster » Mon May 16, 2016 1:32 am

TheLastDude wrote:
RoboFist wrote:The thing is that, in my experience anyway, poor paint jobs haven't been terribly common anymore. Yes, there's always a gamble when you order online (I just bought an Oswald the Rabbit Pop that looks like it was painted by a five year old, for example), but even in those cases, I'm always more surprised when I have a Pop with a noticeably bad paint job. Like the Iron Man we just got in the MCC box? All of the intricate lines and panels in his complicated armor? 100% spotless.

So, yeah, you get what you pay for, but considering these are $10 toys, I'd say that the quality paint jobs drastically outweight the bad ones.


Agreed 100%.

Sure, there are some where the paint isn't completely spot on...but how many Pops can you honestly say are absolutely atrocious? I'm talking not in a nit-picking way either...


My biggest peeve has been, and always will be, the eyes. Absolutely hate off center eyes. Especially when they are so off centered that I have a hard time distinguishing whether I am looking at Sailor Mercury or Sloth from the Goonies.

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Re: Funko statement/position regarding paint defects?

Postby pop_jumper » Mon May 16, 2016 3:30 am

poppetmaster wrote:
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RoboFist wrote:The thing is that, in my experience anyway, poor paint jobs haven't been terribly common anymore. Yes, there's always a gamble when you order online (I just bought an Oswald the Rabbit Pop that looks like it was painted by a five year old, for example), but even in those cases, I'm always more surprised when I have a Pop with a noticeably bad paint job. Like the Iron Man we just got in the MCC box? All of the intricate lines and panels in his complicated armor? 100% spotless.

So, yeah, you get what you pay for, but considering these are $10 toys, I'd say that the quality paint jobs drastically outweight the bad ones.


Agreed 100%.

Sure, there are some where the paint isn't completely spot on...but how many Pops can you honestly say are absolutely atrocious? I'm talking not in a nit-picking way either...


My biggest peeve has been, and always will be, the eyes. Absolutely hate off center eyes. Especially when they are so off centered that I have a hard time distinguishing whether I am looking at Sailor Mercury or Sloth from the Goonies.

This is most apparent on a lot of Deadpool pops. Especially the Pirate one. I have yet to see a pirate Deadpool that I didn't notice bad eyes on.
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Postby conventiongeek » Mon May 16, 2016 1:05 pm

Some of the best "flaws" in collectibles have made said collectible that much more desirable. I think there is a place for both perfect and flawed items. However, A bad paint job is a bad paint job. You should see it before buying and if not then exchange it. Most items are retail anyway.

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Postby zaghawk » Mon May 16, 2016 3:08 pm

slim1977 wrote:Most likely the statement would be, they are 9 dollar toys. Paint defects happen......


Or more like $9 toy that costs $1 to make. Paint defects happen...

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But in honesty, have you seen Pre-2015 pieces vs today. There is a huge difference in paint quality and consistency. I remember when my wife and I would go through 5-8 different POPs to make sure one didn't have messed up eyes due to smudges, missing the circle completely, too much/little paint, etc.. Now you pretty much only need to choose between two (and even then it's just being nit picky at that point).
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Postby WolfXGames » Mon May 16, 2016 3:36 pm

Like others have said it sucks but you basically just have to accept it since at this price point, it happens. Maybe Funko would focus on it more if they didn't have the luxury of being able to sell online. Being able to sell these online allows sellers to move pops with bad paint jobs much easier. Just look at eBay, you have sellers just posting glam shots and yet people still buy from them without knowing what the condition of the pop is like. If the seller doesn't offer free returns, it may not even be worth it to ship back a $10.00 pop and just deal with having one with a crappy paint job. I agree though, quality is getting better.

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Postby poppetmaster » Mon May 16, 2016 4:13 pm

zaghawk wrote:
slim1977 wrote:Most likely the statement would be, they are 9 dollar toys. Paint defects happen......


Or more like $9 toy that costs $1 to make. Paint defects happen...

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But in honesty, have you seen Pre-2015 pieces vs today. There is a huge difference in paint quality and consistency. I remember when my wife and I would go through 5-8 different POPs to make sure one didn't have messed up eyes due to smudges, missing the circle completely, too much/little paint, etc.. Now you pretty much only need to choose between two (and even then it's just being nit picky at that point).


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Postby FunkoNewb » Mon May 16, 2016 4:21 pm

But if they are all perfect, then those rare paint defects are going to cost me too much to find...
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Postby zaghawk » Tue May 17, 2016 2:05 am

WolfXGames wrote:Like others have said it sucks but you basically just have to accept it since at this price point, it happens. Maybe Funko would focus on it more if they didn't have the luxury of being able to sell online. Being able to sell these online allows sellers to move pops with bad paint jobs much easier. Just look at eBay, you have sellers just posting glam shots and yet people still buy from them without knowing what the condition of the pop is like. If the seller doesn't offer free returns, it may not even be worth it to ship back a $10.00 pop and just deal with having one with a crappy paint job. I agree though, quality is getting better.


And there are those who would rather have a crisp box with a garbage paint job vs a nice paint job and a slightly worn box.
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Postby HobieWanKenobi » Tue May 17, 2016 2:33 am

emcee wrote:
gruppetstudios wrote:Brian hand paints every single Pop figure.


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Postby leosalion » Tue May 17, 2016 10:09 am

Some people don't even care about poorly painted limb or a wonky eye as much as they do a nice clean box

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Postby MarvelPopFan75 » Tue May 17, 2016 10:37 am

Honestly this is a non issue. Any product you buy that is painted will have some level of paint flaws if you look closely enough. If people are going to obsess over paint flaws on $10 toy, then they probably shouldn't collect them. That being said, I applaud Funko's improvement in terms of quality control while maintaining price point, it shows great dedication to their fans.
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Postby Squird » Tue May 17, 2016 11:13 am

Brian has commented on the paint job in various interviews over the years. As others have pointed out, quality has improved dramatically since they first came out, and that's pretty impressive considering how much more detailed some pops are now.

If paint is an issue for you, you're going to have to start buying more in person vs. online, so you can check them for yourself. And I know this isn't always possible...god, do I know. When that isn't possible you just gotta roll the dice and hope for the best.

And as Gruppet said, Brian paints every pop by hand (blindfolded, right-handedly), mistakes are bound to happen.

That's why I prefer the unpainted ones.
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Postby FunkoNewb » Tue May 17, 2016 2:32 pm

Squird wrote:That's why I prefer the unpainted ones.

Best way to deal with this problem, pay the extra money for no paint flaws :roflmao:
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zaghawk wrote:
WolfXGames wrote:Like others have said it sucks but you basically just have to accept it since at this price point, it happens. Maybe Funko would focus on it more if they didn't have the luxury of being able to sell online. Being able to sell these online allows sellers to move pops with bad paint jobs much easier. Just look at eBay, you have sellers just posting glam shots and yet people still buy from them without knowing what the condition of the pop is like. If the seller doesn't offer free returns, it may not even be worth it to ship back a $10.00 pop and just deal with having one with a crappy paint job. I agree though, quality is getting better.


And there are those who would rather have a crisp box with a garbage paint job vs a nice paint job and a slightly worn box.


I would take a minty box with less than perfect paint. Unless it is a MAJOR paint flaw or the eyeballs are off center. Yuck. Mine never see life outside of the box, so they may ALL have crap wrong with them on the back side and I would never know it.

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poppetmaster wrote:
zaghawk wrote:
WolfXGames wrote:Like others have said it sucks but you basically just have to accept it since at this price point, it happens. Maybe Funko would focus on it more if they didn't have the luxury of being able to sell online. Being able to sell these online allows sellers to move pops with bad paint jobs much easier. Just look at eBay, you have sellers just posting glam shots and yet people still buy from them without knowing what the condition of the pop is like. If the seller doesn't offer free returns, it may not even be worth it to ship back a $10.00 pop and just deal with having one with a crappy paint job. I agree though, quality is getting better.


And there are those who would rather have a crisp box with a garbage paint job vs a nice paint job and a slightly worn box.


I would take a minty box with less than perfect paint. Unless it is a MAJOR paint flaw or the eyeballs are off center. Yuck. Mine never see life outside of the box, so they may ALL have crap wrong with them on the back side and I would never know it.


Exactly, if you are an in box collector you only need it to not have major visible flaws from inside thew box. most of my stuff could have horrible paint flaws on the back and I'll never know.
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Postby poppetmaster » Tue May 17, 2016 3:33 pm

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zaghawk wrote:
And there are those who would rather have a crisp box with a garbage paint job vs a nice paint job and a slightly worn box.


I would take a minty box with less than perfect paint. Unless it is a MAJOR paint flaw or the eyeballs are off center. Yuck. Mine never see life outside of the box, so they may ALL have crap wrong with them on the back side and I would never know it.


Exactly, if you are an in box collector you only need it to not have major visible flaws from inside thew box. most of my stuff could have horrible paint flaws on the back and I'll never know.


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Postby kiptrip » Wed May 18, 2016 2:37 pm

FunkoNewb wrote:
Squird wrote:That's why I prefer the unpainted ones.

Best way to deal with this problem, pay the extra money for no paint flaws :roflmao:


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Re: Funko statement/position regarding paint defects?

Postby alex_dewitt » Wed Jun 29, 2016 6:17 am

Just something I've noticed today. In my opinion Funko (or the factories) still let way too many Pops that are awfully painted pass quality control. I mean, I'm gonna keep my Arrow anyway since it's too much of a hassle to get it replaced by Popcultcha, but it really disappoints me. The overall quality, detail and paint job on Pops has improved by a mile over the last months, but things like this really shouldn't happen. I'm aware that they're still only $10 toys and that vendors can't check every single Pop and return them if they're not good enough.

It doesn't take away the fun of collecting, but it would be even better if their QC was more strict sometimes! :-)

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